Earn money with a Ponzi scheme it is possible… Power live? In reality it is possible also…
Is this risky? Clearly yes! and fortunately, these are sales revenues, fraud and money laundering.
Why this article?
After having studied, analyze these concepts and especially the big investors, I realized that in fact it was possible to get there also and so it's a goal that I set myself!
So I decided also to talk about, it is by no means secret or other, there is nothing to hide, just to explain… Let's go!
Reminder: what is a Ponzi scheme?
A Ponzi scheme is a system, a program that pays former members from the spawning of new members money, it's illegal, but today it is difficult for authorities to prove that programs are a Ponzi scheme and therefore cannot do much…
There is client/user level, firstly at the level of the payment processors that are severe level controls, sample Paypal and Payza, where there are many transactions, they block the funds and demand evidence, some programs are closed following these controls!
In short, these programs, are classified under the boards advertising and revshare (shared revenues), based on the catalogue all as being a Ponzi!
For reference, the Madoff system lasted 40 years…
In short, are all shared revenue systems a Ponzi?
At the base not, but in practice Yes, based on this fact, because it is rarely possible to know perfectly the plans for executives.
So why embark on these programs?
It is a choice, a personal risk to take… like becoming Hitman.
The fact is, we really earn money, some programs are relatively obscure departing on operation, this means that we do not really know whence the money which allows paying members according to yields defined…
Doubt is therefore always present, on the other hand, I'm going to contradict me, but all programs are not the Ponzi schemes, indeed I take the example of my top 5, he has more doubt for trafficmonsoon and boomdirect, even if at the base they are catalogued so at startup, the fact is that now these programs well pay their members with the income they generate, and not with fresh money from new members.
What the sponsors are saying:
I take another recent example, beonpush, what I like, this program, the market in which innovation is unique for this type of program.
Many think that it is a Ponzi, or of a hyip, real hyip are legal and related to forex trading, maximum risk for maximum gains!
Here this is not the case, it's probably a future leader in his field (officially the RTB, in fact it is a Ponzi scheme).
FYI, many people who criticize these business, which say loud and clear, are often part of these programs… (the world upside down!)
When they are unmasked, their response: "and much like everyone else I'm looking to earn money but without believing specially…". ».
So they take advantage of the system in the end…
So I come gradually to the main topic, yes you can make money with a Ponzi scheme!
How proceed to earn money with the Ponzi scheme?
To put it simply, it must be present in several programs that appear to be serious…
Serious programs, are actually programs that offer a pay plan oriented long-term, i.e. that it must take into account the King and the price of a pack, the trafficmonsoon example is obvious, today 2% per day per pack, a pack to $ 50, a total 110% return… 55 days to recover his investment!
It's been a year now and the program is not ready to stop from one day to the next!
I do not propose to detail all programs, but I'll give examples of course including mine.
An important point to remember, is that he must be patient, necessarily, it is a test of indisputable success on the internet especially with a small budget.
I have observed that many programs stopped after a few months, but never at the same time.
There are high paying programs, with high daily percentages, more than 3 percent, many are "capped" (= limited) 6%, here your progress is very fast at the start, if the program holds the road and stabilizes with rates revised downward later, there is a chance that the program takes several months (at least 6).
In fact everything depends on the speed of progress of the programme, i.e. the number of members who are investing, initially so it's somewhat a blow of poker…
Should be monitored, if possible, the total invested amount report / reversed total (withdrawals).
The idea is to leverage your initial investment and then to clear profits, these profits you will be used to invest in other programs, as well as to make you happy personally!
A plan without sponsorship!
I don't speak sponsorship here, because this distorts all the data, your speed of growth becomes exponential with sponsorship…
So overall according to the observations, plus packs price is important to base more must be invested, and more program fits in the long term, for example, trafficmonsoon should at least start with $ 500 for not to wait months and months for progress.
Conversely, programs with $ 5 packs see $ 1, it is necessary to at least start with $ 100 see $ 200.
This represents a budget if it invests in several programs…
At the same time if we want to win really, one is obliged to spend!
So if you are not willing to invest, you can immediately abandon the idea of doing business on the internet!
Otherwise you invest the minimum in the best program and in 1 year you can evolve if the program keeps its promises.
I started by looking at programs, big investors, first thing in common, they are all gone, their secret?
The patient and controlled risk-taking…
At the beginning, I focused on taking the risk and so I did nothing, not advanced, and I saw people who were progressing, then in the end, I started… With trafficmonsoon...
$ 200 I found that long… and then I started to make some profits, of $ 50, that I've reinvested in other programs…
Today I am in quite a lot of programs, I start up with minimal and I as and feeding programs that interest me the most…
Starting with the minimum, there is no realistic vision, they earn not much, for example 2 or $ 3 in 1 month, and then time passes, the programmes take the road, analysis still helps the selection, earnings increase…
If I make the point today, a single program allowed me to start 5 other…
Among these 5 programs, 2 allow me to get $ 100 per week (ridiculous in the middle) I reinvested for the progression or I withdraw to my personal needs.
In total, if I leave the packs until expiration, I'd largely be over $ 2000 for $ 300 invested at the base and the patient, it is profitable!
Programs have not yet closed and all seem well gone, I know that some will close at a given time, but what is reassuring, it is the efforts of leaders facing traditional problems, they arrive at these problems successfully, so there is a real willingness to success and no scammer mindset, close the doors and leave with money that which is or was common…
Recently, I had the opportunity to get back into any recent programs that I didn't feel, and with good reason… Like what time to do detailed journals me is useful!
So today on the whole, I am far beneficiary, not to live, but it evolves, once the system is in place just to maintain and be patient!
If a program closed, or two, three, I lose nothing, and I can raise new program… It's the principle!
Other experiences… (other examples)
Here I will just speak quickly routes of the people that I could discover, which are top leaders without going into details.
I repeat once again, the patient and perseverance are the keys to success.
Today the incomes of these people exceed the $ 5000 per week…
My first question, how much you have referrals?
The General responses, to my surprise, the number of referrals is not extraordinary, they are downline of confirmed investor types, invest $ 20 is nothing, invest $ 500 or $ 1000 and much more it is anything else, and that makes the difference.
Super OK and if the person did not much of godsons, my question is therefore how much you invested at the start?
And there, the answer is obvious, many, at a minimum of $ 1000 and maximum $ 20,000…
Aouch… How did you do to invest much? Not well es in your head? Or do you have a serious info that nobody has and you did a loan?
And no, nothing like that, the money comes from other business…
And this is where or I come to develop on the beginning…
Most started with small investments to the tune of $ 200 in a business, each month in a different business, some have closed, others have exploded, earnings increased gradually, they exhibited their result naturally, people followed them, with experience they select credible business, which attracts the people who follow them…
They became leaders in proposing relatively reliable programs.
Result gain exploded also… They can afford to start a new program with $ 1000 or $ 2000 without problems…
It thrills not?
Yes it is on… it must be patient and identify promising programs and succeed in making the difference between those who engage in all the programs that come out and seek to recruit the most and those who analyze really!
I mention because it is proof that the patient may report greatly.
A person has embarked at the beginning on trafficmonsoon, with an investment of $ 300.
A year later, this person has 100 referrals… Approximately 8 referrals per month, which is very low for this type of program.
This person earns more than $ 2000 per day just on this program.
A total of accumulated profit exceeding $ 350,000.
This person can consider retiring now correctly placing his earnings.
A final example, someone started trafficmonsoon from the beginning, with $ 100 is 2 packs, without any referral, or withdrawal, one year after she got pleasure in removing $ 1000, and now its progression is exponential…
Make a passive investment without risk, without much conviction at the level of the results…
Interesting as added value…
What it takes to keep, money is a stream, either we know how it works and so we know how enjoy either one runs after waiting for the perfect time to catch him… (what happens never actually except for a few exceptions!)
Which means that we must take into account risks, measure them, do not do anything, but not to ask too many questions, look for the details that will make you hesitate and in some cases you will prove that you were right and in others that you were wrong!
If I take my example, I did the analysis from the beginning where I am interested in this medium, I missed the beginning of trafficmonsoon, I missed the beginning of boomdirect, FAP, and other programs, there are programs that I have not followed and/or I was right, another one that I followed wrongly…
In the end, I missed a few thousand dollars…
My advice is not to focus only on the gain on the money, by experience I would a known expression: am I flee you, flee me I follow you…
Should a key question, embark on a program from its start?
I would say yes, but under certain conditions, to know, know the admin, have an opinion of the true leaders, Exchange, if possible with the admin of the program.
You should know that the big leaders, those that have the status of top earner in the business, are often solicited by the admins who want to start their new programs…
I have myself been approached by some admins for their program, but problem of ego/personality, when I ask not sensitive, precise information for their business, they still take it wrong…
(Nb: these programs did not take the road!)
The network vs marketing war. revshares…
I am forced to make a point above in this article.
There's really a conflict of interest between these two sectors, which are different despite a clear rapprochement on the marketing part.
True network marketing, at the base, is associated with companies that create real products, and rely on their development by word-of-mouth, which leads to the VDI (tupperware) status.
This has evolved, now the marketing part is also associated with advertising-based, regulated business pubs and revshares…
The problem is the number of unreliable programs that come out and tarnish the image of the environment!
It should not be confused, true network marketing is and will remain the reference, it should be combined with the VDI.
This solution is truly an opportunity akin to a job (VDI, auto entrepreneur), you are your own boss, the only risk is to not get there, that is, you are not able to provide the effort / the work required to get there.
This environment is not for everyone, this medium is open to opportunists, those who want really to give themselves the means to achieve their goals, in fact very few are able to, lack of will, of real desire, motivation, or simply because in reality people don't know not what they want really, or do are not able to focus on a real and unique objective and that they do not believe that this is possible…
As necessary be trained properly…
Conversely, revshares and advertising agencies are accessible to everyone, because making abstraction of the sponsorship part it is possible to succeed…
What everyone seeks, but many are not ready to invest and take these risks and prefer to daydream to the success of those who expose their result…
The question to ask yourself if you really want to evolve:
What are you willing to do to change your situation?
Take financial risks?
Attention here, do not put your life at stake, not only play with money that you do not or which is necessary.
Or will work for you?
Attention also, work for yourself, this is is not worked for a boss, for the State, so there are conditions to accept, you're more under "I work for a boss so I receive a salary, whatever happens in the first month and I don't owe anything to anyone…" »
The vision is:
You start your business, oriented around a product, a service, so minimal to start is to know this product, this service before market… it logic not?
So yet again, logically, you acquire this product/service to test it…
If you see a scam, your boss awaits eagerly to work… ^^
NB: personally I me invested much in this environment, and I do not see it as a labour imposed, but a hobby / past time as this me plait!
I combine true network with product marketing and the revshares / advertising agencies…
That is a lot of time, but you should know what you want, I invite people to recognizing here to contact me because the potential often exceeds our imagination, to live his dreams instead of dream life…
What you might!
What you may actually
In addition to losing your money, there are much larger risks.
The attempt to gain money from abnormal and easy way, in particular leaving manipulate (social engineering), eventually lead to getting you ripped off (419 fraud…), does not make you a victim but an accomplice.
No person shall avail itself of his own depravity.
In a very good video documentary of the 05.02.2013 – facing the Internet mafia, there is, among other things, an interview of a woman sentenced for aiding and abetting active money laundering after being trapped in an engineering social operation.
But in addition, the pyramid (process says the "snowball" or the "silver chain") is prohibited in France since 1953 (Article L 122-6 of the Code of consumption 1 ° and 2 ° paragraphs). This text was supplemented by an act of 1 February 1995 (3 ° and 4 ° paragraphs) which specifies the prohibitions on sales channels. Since that date, a company which fails to comply with this regulation and allegedly illegal practices would be condemned.
Under French law, «it is forbidden to propose a person to collect memberships or to register on a list requiring her the payment of any consideration and in him doing hope financial gains resulting from a geometric progression in the number of persons registered or recruited» (art. L. 122-6 and art. L. 122-7 of the code of consumption) and "this prohibition is subject to penalties of fine or imprisonment. »
The correctional tribunal of Albertville for example sentenced to penalties of four to ten months in prison suspended 33 Savoyards who participated in a money game akin to a Ponzi pyramid, was learned from the Prosecutor's office.
These sentences for fraud, was accompanied by fines between 4,500 and € 20,000. Four other defendants were fined with simple fines.
Penalties for the offence of fraud
First of all, it should be recalled that the prescription of the scam is acquired after a period of three years from the day of the return of the coveted thing.
The maximum penalties for fraud are:
-For natural persons: 5 years ' imprisonment, €375,000 fine and ban or confiscation of certain rights.
-For legal persons: €1.875.000 fine as well as the penalties provided for in article 131-39 of the criminal code.
The attempt is punishable by the same penalties.
The penalties are raised to seven years in prison and €750,000 fine when the scam is carried out:
-By a person vested with public authority or a public service mission, in the exercise or on the occasion of the exercise of its functions or its mission (article 313-2 – 1 ° of the criminal code);
-By a person who unduly takes the quality of a person vested with public authority or responsible for a public service mission (article 313-2 – 2 ° of the criminal code);
-By a person who appealed to the public to the issue of securities or for fundraising purposes for humanitarian or social assistance (section 313-2 – 3 ° of the criminal code);
-To the detriment of a person whose particular vulnerability, due to his age, illness, infirmity, physical or mental disability or a State of pregnancy, is apparent or known perpetrator (article 313-2 – 3 ° of the criminal code).
The penalties are raised to ten years in prison and €1,000,000 fine where fraud is committed in organized band.
This want to say that if sponsor you what-qu´un you are liable of Delia d´escroquerie is organized band, if this bleaching is.
Money laundering is to conceal funds from illegal sources (drug trafficking, theft, fraud (including pyramid selling), selling weapons, robbery, tax evasion,…) by reinvesting them in legal activity (real estate, restoration, etc.). IT
The objective of the author of money laundering is to facilitate the false justification of the origin of these sums to the authorities. In practice, money-laundering "dirty money" may appear in the form of different mechanisms, as for example the establishment of false invoices between several companies.
In France, money laundering is punishable under article 324-1 of the penal Code which provides for a sentence of 5 years in prison and a fine of € 375 000. This sanction may be increased in some cases. For example, the penalty is increased to 10 years imprisonment and 750000 euro fine in two cases: when money laundering is committed habitually or by using the facilities provided by the exercise of a professional activity and when it is committed in organized gang. For a complete point on penalties, see articles of the penal Code concerning simple laundering and aggravated laundering.
Recall of l´AMF published March 12, 2014
AMF cautions public against investment offers promising exceptional yields relying, visible or otherwise, on the establishment of a system of recruitment, membership or sponsorship. Very attractive appearance, these offers are dangling high gains that are unrealistic. They usually hide's actual scams for laundering money and in most cases, in some cases, loss of the placement of departure for the saver.
This type of installation can take various forms: trading on the Forex market (via an unauthorized FOREX platform), or mail order of goods or services. The goal for these companies is to continuously recruit new members added to existing members. The latter recruited bring new funds entering, which are partly donated to the former members to gain and maintain their confidence: this is what is called a pyramid. Media and internet in particular, neighbourhood, "word of mouth": recruitment may be done in various ways.
The device lasts as long as new recruitments are possible. When it collapses, sometimes quite rapidly, members typically lose the entirety of their bet in favour, often the single initiator and his accomplices.
The AMF calls savers to the utmost vigilance and invites them to:
- Do not respond to this type of offers and do not relay them to third parties;
- In the case of fraud, victims must file a complaint and provide all possible information to the competent judicial authorities (references for money transfers, identified contacts, addresses, emails or emails, etc.).
In General, the AMF advises investors to follow the following rules before any investment:
- No commercial speech should make us forget that there is no investment offering high returns with no risk;
- Learn about the legality of the financial intermediary that offers the product by consulting the list of the establishments authorized to operate in France (http://www.amf-france.org > high-speed access > savings products approved (GECO)).
An intermediary not authorised is subject to criminal penalties.
To answer the questions and queries of savers, the AMF provides its site internet http://www.amf-france.org or the savings Info service 01 53 45 62 00 from Monday to Friday from 9 h to 17 h.
Institute for the financial education of the public (IEFP) provides investors with a presentation of systems of pyramid selling on its Web site: www.lafinancepourtous.com/Decryptages/Articles/Systeme-de-vente-pyramidale
Directorate of communication of the AMF – Caroline Zoutleeuw – Tel : + 33 (0) 1 53 45 60 39 or + 33 (0) 1 53 45 60 28
After this very long article, which might disturb some people…
Those who arrived at the end should not be many, I hope just provided useful information and informed readers about the overall operation and the possibilities…
The aim being to provide a realistic view of this environment, without being positive or negative, I have spoken about the pros and cons, without, I think, have put one or the other forwards, or may be a bit because I have quoted one of my personal goals!
If you came up here, that this article you liked, I propose to share and disseminate it up!
I think that this type of article can be useful to prevent people to make mistakes and especially about what they actually undertake! =)
PS: Time is money…